Chloe has a few online buddies that she likes to chat and play games with. Anyone from Canada who’s ever had American friends before know they find our milk bags absolutely fascinating for some reason.
I think they sell way stranger things down there.
Chloe’s friend is called Nova, and she just so happens to be a guest character. :)
A few years ago, I stumbled upon a professional artist and animator on DeviantArt called William Ruzicka. I was probably at the worst part of my drawing slump at the time, but his art really inspired me to pick up my pens again. He then noticed me and told me he liked Chloe (known as Maki back then) and thought I had the potential to become much better if I kept drawing.
And I did just that.
He also drew a few awesome pictures of Chloe, so I promised him I’d feature his old OC, Nova, a cute geekette obsessed with the paranormal, in Frivolesque someday. Seems like the day has finally come. Even though it took me so long to do it.
I even drew her in her underwear. Frivolesque’s family-friendly image just went out the window.
Milk in a bag? Never heard that one before, but yeah what were Americans thinking when they invented Cheese Wizz?
They were thinking they needed something convienant that also tastes awful to use as an emergency vomit inducer. Not everyone has ipecac. And dammit we succeeded! American ingenuity at it’s best!
I… like Cheez Whiz…
First reaction to comment; IIII like cheez Whiiiz… *To the tune of Monty Python’s I Like Chinese…
Sorry, had to…
LMAO! I had never heard that before. I thought I knew everything there was to know about the Pythons!
There’s a CD called “Monty Python Sings”. Got an open mouth on the front with a green tongue & guitar strings (you’ll understand it when you see it). Thoroughly recommend it…
I’ve never seen anyone vomit from it, and it has its uses.
That said, calling anything that comes out of a spray-can ‘cheese’ is a stretch in my book… but as someone who grew up keeping dairy animals, my perspective is bound to be a little skewed.
The idea of liquid cheese doesn’t appeal to me at all.
After salvaging -real- cheese that’s liquefied from being left in the fridge too long, I’ve found appeal in it as a dip for toasted bits of bread.
I still don’t care for fil mjolk, though.
I had never noticed your Adeptus Mecanicus avatar before…
And yeah. Definitely not cheese. Neither is Cheez Whiz. Or whatever that weird Kraft Dinner yellow powder is.
It’s new-ish. The Inquisition one didn’t work all that well at gravatar resolution, and using a copyrighted image felt a little skeevy, even if it did have a chance of drumming up more readership for Mystic Revolution.
I’ll likely change it again eventually, but it looks nice until I find an icon for a faction I actually feel allegiance to.
To me, it’s all about the ‘nids!
I have one for them, but don’t really feel like using it – as much as I like them, their icon isn’t particularly impressive.
If I ever start a Battlefleet Gothic list, though… ‘Nids, hands down.
Cheez Whiz is actually not that bad. We also have that in Canada, I love to put it on my toasts. I was mostly referring to THIS : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_Cheese
I’ve googled “Canadian Milk Bags” soon after i read this :)
thanks to Chloe :D
Frivolesque. Cute, fun, educational.
More fun facts. I think I’ve seen something like that Down Under too. Can’t remember what it’s called tho…
*Tried Google, but only got weird stuff…*
OK, accidentally posted early… :P
Australian ones are shaped like jugs, self standing, have an air bubble as a handle & go completely flat when empty. Still can’t find pics tho…
The world is a fun place. When (IF?) The Frivolesque girls ever go Down Under, I’ll ask you for suggestions and references. :)
Milk (and more commonly buttermilk) can be found in eastern Europe (don’t know about Western part).
Are you polish? Wow, I didn’t know I had readers in that area. =D
I know, right? :)
I got the visor girl gravatar :)
Be glad! It’s the special one :)
yesss i love it :D
That sounds like a particularly fun euphemism.
“The Great Canadian Milk Bags” might be how people in the US secret services call Liliane behind her back…
I just get my keyboard full of crumbs from the cookie I was eating!! Thank you DEZ :P
I don’t think we have those in this end of Canada. I have never seen nor heard of such a thing. How would that even work?
We have containers we buy and then put the bag in them. We cut a little end of the bag to pour into glasses and etc afterwards.
It’s very economic actually, because for the amount of milk we get in 2 bags is about only 1 dollar more then a milk carton.
Pomme! Welcome to my comment section!
Personally, I prefer to cut both corners, one to milk go out, one to air go in :)
Wise.
Huh. That’s efficient.
If I had to rely on storebought milk, I might look into finding a source; USA grocery stores tend to have cartons or plastic jugs. I’m happy to just wash glass jars & milk the goats daily.
I always thought they were used across Canada? A friend of mine in Vancouver says they have them too. Where are you located?
And it’s really easy : https://junkdrawer67.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/milk-bag.jpg
Um… I live fifteen minutes from Vancouver. In Burnaby. I know I don’t get out much, but I didn’t think I could completely miss the existence of something like that. Can you just find them at any grocery store?
Hmm…I guess it’s a Quebec and Ontario thing then.
I definitely have to visit every province someday, just to see the little differences…
I’ve just asked my mum about all this, since she’s the only one in the family who knows anything about groceries. It seems those things used to be popular here too, especially in the ’70s. Now we just have cartons and jugs.
i would think women, babies, and most men would think it more natural for milk to come in bags. preferably firm ones? this is a terrible joke and i apologize. i’m tired from working all day and i couldn’t think of anything more clever.
What a crappy joke. ;)
And hey… did you ever get my e-mail? :(
no, i haven’t checked my email. i usually get notices. guess i don’t get them all.
Oh… I sent an email last week after our discussion… Using the “lotusfox2” address you provided in your comment. (gya ha ha, I have access to this information)
Didn’t mean to stalk. ^^
i wasn’t ignoring you at all, i just didn’t realize you had sent me one. i use my alt account for online posting to avoid spam from advertisers. i think you’re cool and not stalky at all lol. i love meeting new people online.
Sorry for jump in but the funny thing is that this thread remembered me to check mine :$
“remembered” should be “reminded” *blush again*
found the email and replied back. thanks for taking the time to send me one.
That’s not so strange. Over here we have these:
http://www.wheninmanila.com/philippine-2-peso-coin-10-things-that-2-pesos-can-get-you-today/ice-water/
http://www.wheninmanila.com/onlyinthephilippines-10-things-that-make-pinas-fun-or-funny/things-only-in-the-philippines-5/
Everything commonplace in one country ends up being alien in another one. :)
Milk in a bag?! Science fiction?! (googles) Oh my god it’s real! What have you done Canada!?
We’ve done a very smart thing.
You know? Thank you very much DEZ.
I was sure that milk in a bag was a thing just here in our south american third world countries :) I don’t know why actually, maybe all those USA’s shows and movies showing milk cartons and jugs.
Of course now that I have read the Wikipedia article :) I know it exist in more places that I thought, still uncommon though.
Anyway It’s nice to know that Canada of all places have them too ;)
We do have cartons and jugs too. But bags are just the way to go when you have a family that drinks a lot of milk. (Since I’m living on my own, cartons are all I use, since all that milk would probably turn bad before I have the time to drink it all)
We have cartons too :)
However bags are usually not in bulk as yours. They are around one liter each, sold separately, opaque and all printed on with brand, type, logos and whatnot. They are the “normal” way for everybody, not a cheaper “family” package.
There are also the typical variations with special treatments and addons, some of which are what you can get in cartons.
I’ve seen milk in bags here in the states, put there with the intent that one should pour it into something else I believe. (I wont even try to explain cheese in a can. I just think of it as an example of science used for evil purposes, or just plain good old Yankee laziness) As for your guest character, all I can say is “Welcome aboard!” She is one serious piece of artwork. Bravo sir!
By the way, is that Flore is the background picture, dressed as a Star Trek character?
No, that’s actually Nova herself! I just tried to redraw one of her creator’s drawings : http://will-ruzicka.deviantart.com/art/Ensign-Nova-245758855
Oh I see. My bad. I couldn’t quite seeing the details.
Yeah, it’s really low res. XD
It was easy to mistake her headband for Flore’s bangs.
I like how that now adds “cosplay” to her list of hobbies. Paranormal research, cosplay, star trek… strange headbands…
Maybe it’s just a drawing someone did of her in a Star Trek uniform? :)
But her being a Geek-of-all-trades is cool. And it explains why Chloe and her get along well. :)
Will actually told me once that I could use her as much as I wanted. So she’ll probably return when I need her. I just hope I won’t get in trouble. ;)
What if Flore and Laurence were going to meet Nova? :P
Actually…
You know, when I said Will inspired me? Well, that one picture is probably responsible for the entire “Flore in space” idea. The whole “glasses inside a helmet” thing. I couldn’t resist.
Well, to be honest my comment started because those two drawings give me the same “vibe”.
The thing is that now I see Nova’s expression as she is no believing his eyes while seeing the twins approaching. Every time :)
I’m french so I don’t know about this story of milk in bags….
All you need to know, is that both Canadians and Americans like to make fun of their little differences. :)
This is every conversation with a half-ass well-informed American… gahhhhh, and I even like string cheese! XD
Half ass informed people exist everywhere though.
This is far more time than Shiba my friend ;)
What?
I didn’t know her name but I recognized that character and knew who the original artist was right away.
At first, this seemed like one of the most simple comics you’ve posted so far. But there are details here I never would have thought to include and which I didn’t notice when I read it earlier this morning.
Simple really? It took quite a while to do, with the lighting, and unusual poses and all.
And wow! It’s pretty cool that you knew who she was! Will is a great artist. I know he’s busy with his job, but I really miss seeing his original stuff. :)
Not simple, perhaps, but to the untrained eye they would seem to be less time-consuming than the backgrounds in the shopping mall scenes.
I found him on Deviantart a few years ago (under the old account he doesn’t use anymore) before I learned that he was working in the animation industry. I guess ScoobyKun (another artist I’ve followed on DA for a couple of years) has also made it into the biz. Also: IanComix & RPGworld were 2 of the first webcomics I ever read (way back in 2000 or something) and now he’s hit it big, too. I’m sure there are even more that I’m forgetting. It’s nice to see people like them getting their due.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH. No, not the mall strips… *breaks down in fear having a traumatic flashback experience*
But yeah, I… guess the background have been on the simple side lately. I need to step up my game. But yeah, the first mall strip took so fucking long to make, when I was done with it, I was like “nevermore!”
And wow. The old Ryusuke account. Checking it out again, I realize how amazing his new stuff looks in comparison.
I’ve been stalking artists on the internet since 1997, and I saw a ton of them make it big. I was always happy for them, but at the same time, I’ve always felt a little jealous. I should have spent that time trying to improve instead. :)
I hope these milk bags are strong, I can easily imagine them busting if you drop them.
Oh they can burst if you drop them, I think I did that a child.
Really? Never happened to me.
Clearly you didn’t try very hard, did you?
I tend not to spill liquids on purpose. Especially not those I pay for. ;)
…somehow, the missing ‘as’ made me think ‘to.’ I wince to think of how one could accidentally drop a child far enough for them to burst.
Happens all the time.
:)) It happened to me too, but I imagined like a water balloon ;)
No as easy as you would think. There are different types and the daily milk (ie to consume into two or three days) are the more fragile, but even so I drop them several times from as much as a meter (about my hip) and it broke just once.
They are much easy to be punctured though, sometimes you need to remember the packager to NOT put them with some kinds of hard packages or you will arrive home with an empty bag and a mess.
They are strong!
Coming late today. So many things in this one, I will separate.
That. Third. Panel. :D Careful Nova, it seems the patience Chloe has with Marie-Neige, she don’t has with everyone.
Nova looks amazing, an excellent choice. I will call this the first Frivolesque Fanservice. I also hope that it will not be the last one ;)
Chloe has a nice wallpaper, I wonder where she got it :P and ,is that a… Mushroom laptop?
Thanks! I really love that third panel too. I had a blast drawing it.
And yeah. Chloe, while being very nice and patient, has a short fuse sometimes. (like with that video game sports guy)
I have yet more fanservice like this coming up… which might actually be… too soon. I really don’t want Freevo to turn into a fanservice webcomic, but sometimes, it’s fun to try new things.
It’s pretty cool you noticed the wallpaper! ;)
And yup. Mushroom Computers. Spreading around the world like a disease.
Phew, I thought I was the only one who’s more interested in fanservice that in milk bags))
This has to be the best comment in this entire thread.
I peeked a bit of Will’s work and, wow! Also he has quite a résumé.
So he motivated you, right? Ok… Hey, Will! You are at the end the one to blame for Frivolesque then? I want to say you just one thing: You were doing god’s job there man. Thank you! :)
About Will’s versions of Chloe, is the second link the one “a little NSFW” he was talking about in the first one’s comments? Or there’s… ahem… more of it? >:)
Here’s the NSFW version. I hadn’t looked at this in awhile… now all I see are my mistakes. -_-;;
http://semoponume78.tumblr.com/post/67910658664/drawn-for-a-friend-decided-to-do-an-underwear-and
I’m a little embarrassed to think I inspired Dez to keep drawing, I just felt that doubting your work, and wanting to get better at drawing is something common to many artists, myself included, and that shouldn’t keep you from doing something. So long as you still enjoy drawing and creating, then keep it up, I say. I’m happy Dez is still drawing, though.
Oh, wow, thank you for reply :) And the pictures are wonderful, you really managed to add erotism while keeping her cuteness. Nice.
You are right, but you didn’t just thought about it, you also were kind enough to actually said it to the other artist and get him motivated. That’s the difference.
And we are happy too, I assure you :)
Well, how should I put this. I’m not saying my will to draw this comic isn’t mine alone, of course. But you gave me that little kick I needed when I needed it the most. Thinking I had no skills whatsoever, realizing I wasn’t improving at all, and having other real life issues dragging me down.
But you drew Chloe. You told me you did this little “I’m gonna draw one different OC every day” thing as an excuse to draw her.
That’s when everything changed for me. :)
And thanks for dropping by!
He’s an impressive dude.
And he was actually talking about the other picture with her pants down in the comments, but yeah, there’s also those alternate versions he just linked. ;)
And there’s also this.
Hahahahaha OMG!!! That’s hilarious! :))
Please, please, please finish it, please, please, please.
I wanna see the violent reaction.
Go bug him for a sequel. :)
We had milk in bags when I was child, though I never saw them in Canada. But the strangest milk package I personally encountered was this: http://img1.1tv.ru/imgsize640x360/PR20150105101601.JPG
When I was a child we have glass bottles with aluminum caps :) I still have a couple as mementos.
Oh yeah, those, with a wide neck where you press on the lid to open it, right?
The very same :)
wat
Just a plain ol’ milk pyramid, nothing fancy, like a bag
Hey, that’s our old Soviet milk packet! A bit deformed though, it should be a pyramid. I still remember granny bought them.
Yep, that’s the one. For us they showed up occasionally even in the 90s
Am I invaded by the Russians?
Huh. I’ve had frozen orange juice in those before, but never milk.
“QUI VEUT UN MONSIEUR JUTEUX??”
Sorry. Childhood flashbacks.
Hahaha :) Vintage!
My, you’re really gonna dig up everything I mention, aren’t you? XD
Oh man. This takes me back. You might not notice it, but the skater and the kids in the ad are english Canadians speaking french with a very thick english accent. The ad is still remembered (and mocked) to this day because of it.
“you’re really gonna dig up everything I mention, aren’t you? ”
Yes! I’m the Clementine to your Marie-Neige (ok, maybe no *that* much… ) :P
Well, to be honest I always dig as much things as I can. I love acquiring new knowledge of any kind (*). But for obvious reasons I need to prioritize and I learned that, as well as Plasma’s gravatars, you have a high cost-benefic rate :)
So, to finally answer your question for real: Pretty much! ;) Because so far I have had lots of fun digging your stuff. Thank you for that! :)
(*) That’s how I got to know about glasses ;)
“english Canadians speaking french with a very thick english accent”
That upgrade it to hilarious, I really can pictured it :)
BTW, the spell check insist in to change “Vaux” for “Vaut” and by what I quickly learned about the verb “vouloir” could be something there. Is that part of all that?
It was actually “veut” I made a typo.
I’m talking to you all Frivolesque fans, I will comment about one thing that I particularly like.
Look at the first and second panel. Do you see how, among other things, the relative positions between Nova and the picture behind her are different in each one? That is, obviously, because one is seen from the laptop webcam’s Point of View while the other is not.
I will bet that we all know artists, even famous ones, that rather would use the same position in both panels (hell, some would even do Copy/Paste) which make of course a flawed depiction.
That could be due several things: the artist have not technical knowledge enough to realize the situation, or want to minimize the work to do, or don’t thinks it worth, or thinks nobody will notice, or don’t care, et cetera.
But DEZ did it the right way, didn’t he? So we know for sure that: he knows, he is willing to work, he value quality, he respect his public, and, above all, he cares.
That’s a quality artist. That’s a big thing I like about Frivolesque.
Aw come on. I don’t deserve the praise… It’s still the same background, I just moved it a little do change the perspective. ^^
But thank you!
When I was a child we have glass bottles with aluminum caps :) I still have a couple as mementos.
Ops, ignore this.
On another milk related subject, do Canadians have UHT(long-life) milk?
I think so, yeah. Doesn’t that taste like shit though?
It fucking surely does.
UHT milk isn’t anywhere near good enough to drink straight from the carton but depending on the brand, it’s OK enough for using on your cereal or mixed with some flavouring like Milo, Nesquik or ice-cream topping.
WOOOOW!! Frivolesque avatars!!
And the only one Roxanne in the universe is MINE! Bwahahahah! ;D
They are so much cool DEZ. Well done :)
Ooooh, means this that “Aiglentine” (visor girl ;) ) is going to step into Frivolesque universe? :P
Sorry, her name is probably not gonna be Aiglentine. XD
And no. She was just an easter egg avatar, I was wondering who would get it.
I know, don’t worry, that’s why I used quotation marks :) So far I saw “seasons” and “Percolator” with it.
But now at last I get to ask you who Zoé is, and what all that “Find me someone to love” is about. I didn’t see you revealing anything else as you promised :P
It was a comic I started to write two years ago about two poor souls who couldn’t romantically connect with people. I wanted to try something deeper and personal… But it was around that same time that Frivolesque started to take off, so I decided to focus on it and shelved “Somebody to Love” for the time being.
But Zoe actually exists in the Frivoverse. ;)
She’s been mentioned once so far, but hasn’t appeared in the comic yet. Maybe someday.
It looks pretty interesting and the characters have touching expressions. Hope you retake it someday. BTW I love Queen and ELO too, and that song it’s one of the best :)
Ok, so she is the same Zoé as Lilianne’s assistant then, I didn’t do the connection :)
Oh, I get it now, shades are mandatory to work in the Department of Shady Operations, amiright? *badabum tss* :P
Wow. It didn’t take long for people to notice.
I was bored yesterday. And realized doing this was quite easy with Comic Press.
It was just to great to miss :)
Just in case, did you noticed that the emoticons don’t change to faces anymore?
Yeah. WordPress 4.2 added full emoji support. I hate those, so I decided to turn them off. There was no easy way to go back to the old emoticons without a plugin, and I didn’t care much for it.
If people want them back, I’ll see what I can do.
It’s fine this way to me :) and I don’t like emoji neither.
And gon’t get attached too much. The Avatars are reshuffled around everytime I add or remove one.
It’s ok :) That keep it funny and fresh.
And when I get Frédéric it would be very meta :) It would be like him saying: “I’m Frédéric. I’m not Fred” ;)
Frederic was actually your icon when I tested them yesterday.
You see? Fate! ;)
“I even drew her in her underwear. Frivolesque’s family-friendly image just went out the window.”
Huh? It’s not like she’s nude. Not that I get why either is supposed to be a problem, but isn’t sleeping in undies commonplace?
I just try to keep my drawings as tame as possible most of the time. Liliane’s cleavage aside. But I guess a little sexy can’t hurt once in a while.
Now you have guest gravatars? I think I will disable my grav for a few minutes to see what I would get.
Yeah. Felt like they’d be a neat addition.
It looks like my default gravatar for Frivolesque would have been Phoebe, Gaia’s villainous doppelganger.
LOL. SPOILERS!!!!
She’s the most ancient drawing I used for the avatars… I can’t wait to redraw her with her current design. (and my superior art skills)
What I can’t wait to see is if Wing Hart will ever show up, she is lovely :) And what’s the difference between Gaia Project “S” and “X”, I have been doing a lot of speculations :P
Wing? Really?
She’s not supposed to show up, I never considered keeping her around.
You really like her? I actually know what Frivolesque character will take her place in Phoebe’s storyline. (if I ever get to it)
Oh, and back then, without spoiling too much, in my old story, “GPS” referred to Gaia and her siblings, while “GPX” referred to those who came after. But GPS sounds kinda silly and reminds people of something else, so they’re all “GPX” now.
Thank you!
I was almost sure that Wing would not appear here due your comment in that Deviant, but yes, she seems lively and clever and I like how you depicted her :)
Wonderful. Since the first time I saw Phoebe, I bet she was a previous outcome of the same project that Gaia, somehow confirmed after dig your Deviant. You know? I’m reeeeeeally curious about your old work :)
All that remains now is the sideburn man to fall in place :P
(I’m not asking, just teasing, seriously ;) )
I liked Wing design, but she’s kinda redundant… She kinda had Chloe’s personality and hair a bit like Marie-Neige, with band-aids like Saki. (Mind you, I designed her before I ever thought Marie-Neige and Chloe would ever get to interact with Gaia and Saki one day.)
Also, email. Check’ em. Now. ;)
Checked briefly. Thank you :) I can’t wander in the email right now, sorry.
There are over 130 comments so far for one page, this has got to be a milestone for Frivolesque.
Half of them are my replies.
Most of the rest are NotFred’s. ;)
Are you blaming me??!! You are the one that keep chatting! :P
Yup, with 139 (now 140) comments it’s a record. Previous one was “Nergal” I guess, now with 80 comments.
This page:
1st You: 56
2nd Me: 39 (now 40)
3rd Plasma: 9
I’m impressed Canada even has a dairy industry. I figured you guys had to rely entirely on Moose and Walrus milk or something.
Moose are pretty tricky to milk. Caribou are more interesting.
Wow, Nova certainly looks…super. :)
Is the symbol on Nova’s laptop supposed to be a mushroom with a bite out of it?
Yup! It’s exactly what you think it is!
Fungle™
Lol!
Milk-bags sound super inconvenient and super awesome.
I think the ESRB rating went south with the depictions of bondage and lesbian crushes. Still fun, though.
Lesbians should never bring a rating down! D:
I wonder if milk in bags is regional specific. I haven’t seen them in SK since the ’70s.
Chloe is apparently mistaken- a quick Google search turned up reports that, to comply with Canadian law, Cheez Whiz sold in Canada actually contains real cheese. Cheez Whiz sold elsewhere does not contain actual cheese.
Ergo, Chloe lives in a country where cheese is sold in spray cans, and Nova does not.